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Day 19: Minor Pairings (Slash) - Lilah Month -- It's a Party Up in Here

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Same as yesterday, just make it slash instead of het.

My current pet Lilah slash ship? Lilah/Virginia. (But I also see a good case for Lilah/Bethany, because it's wrong, and Lilah/Jenny Calendar)

And you?
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From:raykat
Date:June 19th, 2004 04:55 am (UTC)
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Recently, I've begun to wonder if there's any Lilah/Justine lying around. I don't think these two ever met onscreen (I may very well be wrong, and if I am, please tell me, because I missed a couple of episodes during that period of the show), but it seems like there would be potential for some interesting interplay between them.

Also, pretty (if I may collapse into total shallowness for a second).
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From:katemonkey
Date:June 19th, 2004 05:54 am (UTC)
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They never actually met onscreen, but there's this lovely lovely scene where Lilah invites Wesley to a bar and whilst they're standing on the balcony, they're watching a bunch of vampires go to attack Justine.

Which means that Lilah not only knows who Justine is, but knows enough to set up something like that. And, y'know, hot.

There are a couple of Lilah/Justine stories floating about. fox1013 wrote Window Of Opportunity, and I wrote Switch Bitch, and I've just found Dangerous Creatures on Notorious...
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From:jennyo
Date:June 19th, 2004 01:35 pm (UTC)
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Yup. If I get one more story, y'all, it becomes a Notorious category. I'm just sayin'.
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From:katemonkey
Date:June 19th, 2004 03:07 pm (UTC)
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I'll add it to the list, yo.
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From:anythingbutgrey
Date:June 19th, 2004 02:08 pm (UTC)
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*nods* Laila/Justine is something dirty but probably my minor slash ship for Laila. I mean, she was *locked in the closet* for goodness sake. Laila is bound to have taken her out and had some fun with her. With Wesley. :)
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From:katemonkey
Date:June 19th, 2004 05:56 am (UTC)
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I don't think there's enough Lilah/Eve.

If only because Eve's such a little sex kitten and Lilah's a great big cat and both of them...rawr.

Also? Lilah/Justine, and definitely Lilah/Virginia. It could entirely be about Virginia deciding that she wants to fuck girls while Daddy's away and, oh look, here's this pretty little lawyer Daddy hired...
From:themongkey
Date:June 19th, 2004 07:15 am (UTC)
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I don't think there's enough Lilah/Eve.

Bah, you beat me to it.
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From:doyle_sb4
Date:June 19th, 2004 09:40 am (UTC)
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I'd love to see Lilah/Eve. Eve as the ingenue, jealous of Lilah and wanting to be her. Plus for Lilah, the bonus that she's taking something of Lindsey's. Not to mention the hotness, obviously.
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From:fox1013
Date:June 19th, 2004 10:27 am (UTC)
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Well, you know, before s5 started? Lilah DID need to show Eve how to be like her.

Exactly like her.

In all areas.

If you know what I mean, and I think you do.
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From:sangerin
Date:June 19th, 2004 04:47 pm (UTC)
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Please write this?

*g*
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From:jennyo
Date:June 19th, 2004 01:37 pm (UTC)
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Well, Lilah and Virginia post-Dead End up until Billy is just so tempting. Virginia's through with do-gooders, and why, look, there's this long, tall drink of water who's at the same gourmet coffee shop Virginia frequents, who clearly knows what kind of biscotti to buy, and who can discuss Dante.

In fact, ooh. Now there's a story. Lilah gets the copy of The Inferno she gives Wesley from Virginia who gives it to Lilah as some sort of cautionary tale when they break up.
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From:poisonapple73
Date:June 19th, 2004 07:38 am (UTC)
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There should be more Lilah/Willow. Willow is powerful, but she's so easily messed with, so throwing Lilah in the mix guarantees fun. I've only read one Lilah/Willow fic though (from the Lilah ficathon I think).

Lilah/Tara is interesting too. Not so much in canon, but has anyone read The Sidestep Chronicles?
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:13 am (UTC)
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Did you see that voleuse just wrote a Willow/Lilah? That makes it a grand total of four Lilah/Willows out there.

...and no, I haven't heard of the Sidestep Chronicles. What's that?
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From:fox1013
Date:June 19th, 2004 08:48 am (UTC)
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The complete lack of Lilah/Bethany makes me sad.

I'm also in favor of Lilah/Jenny, because they are two of the only actual adult women in the 'verse, and Lilah/Dawn, because pretty.

But there needs to be more Lilah/Bethany. It's the rules.
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From:doyle_sb4
Date:June 19th, 2004 09:44 am (UTC)
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I'm all about the Lilah/Dawn. Especially if Dawn's still the key and there's some way that can be tapped, because then I could see W&H trying to recruit her like they did Bethany.
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From:fox1013
Date:June 19th, 2004 10:15 am (UTC)
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Mmm. And dude, you know how Lilah works best with girls who've been broken? Dawn in season five of Buffy would be, like, a prime catch for Lilah.

Sure, she's like fourteen in that. But assuming she never recovered? Hot!

Also, I forgot Lilah/Ilona-from-Italy. I should be properly shunned.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:14 am (UTC)
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There's definitely a nasty post-NFA Lilah/Dawn somewhere. Dawn having grown up, maybe a little estranged from Buffy and the mission, Lilah being very VERY annoyed at how Angel screwed up her law firm, Ilona not minding Lilah around...I mean, Lilah does mean night in Arabic, and Lilah, like Dawn, has opened portals to other dimensions with her blood....
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From:doyle_sb4
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:44 am (UTC)
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I mean, Lilah does mean night in Arabic, and Lilah, like Dawn, has opened portals to other dimensions with her blood....

Ooh. I hadn't made that connection at all. That makes me go 'dude!' a lot.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:49 am (UTC)
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When I was fully believing Lilah had herself a big S5 destiny, I made a big big deal about that. Cuz the night sister opens the portal to Hell; the dawn sister...well, who knows?

What could Lilah teach Dawn, being the butterfly who flapped her wings in Peking and caused a rain of fire and blood in Los Angeles? What can Dawn, being no more than Einstein's theories in practice, teach the hard woman who seems to know too much?
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From:doyle_sb4
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:57 am (UTC)
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I love your brain.

Between this and the 'Connor as the embodiment of the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox' fic I found last night, I'm a happy and thoughtful physics geek this morning.

The names thing got me looking up other character names. I'm amused that Winifred is from Gwenfrewi, 'from the Welsh elements gwen "white, fair, blessed" and frewi "reconciliation, peace". This was the name of a 7th-century Welsh saint and martyr.'
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 03:07 am (UTC)
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Winifred has a great vita attached, too. Usual story: she wanted to be a virgin in Jesus, but she was too damn pretty, so her prince pursued her, pursued her, and when she wouldn't give it up, he cut off her head. Then her uncle replaced it, she stood up, and became a prioress and did many miracles.

...

Oh, Joss. you make my head hurt.
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From:doyle_sb4
Date:June 19th, 2004 10:02 am (UTC)
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Lilah/Anya. Lots of snark, swapping of stories about lame ex-boyfriends/clients/people Anya sicced vengeance on, and great shoes. There's none of that woe-for-my-sex-partner-is-teh-evil stuff either, especially if it's back in Anya's Anyanka days.

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From:thefakeheadline
Date:June 19th, 2004 03:31 pm (UTC)
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Lilah/Anya would be just ridiculously fun. The snark and the pretty and the morally ambiguous coolness...

I second Lilah/Justine, too. *So* much potential.

Lilah/Illyria would be really really interesting, too.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 19th, 2004 04:12 pm (UTC)

continuing Lilah/Anya mmmsmut

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And the mutually assured enjoyment of competence, both in and out of the bedroom...so happy!
From:lia_starlet
Date:June 19th, 2004 04:18 pm (UTC)

The pretty factor

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Dead on with Lilah/Illyria..check out sallyanne's Star No Star cause it's all I've seen for that ship. And, obviously, there's so many levels of hot Wes angst in there.

I'm not so much on with the L/B or L/D ships, unless you mess with the timeframe enough to make them older. Otherwise, aside from the ickiness (and there is that) of those young girls, I just don't see either one of them having the sort of experience (both sexually and generally) or understanding that Lilah would seek in a partner.

There is, of course, TPF (the pretty factor)in both scenarios. But they definitely work better in PWP than anything even vaguely sustainable.

However, one thing I do love is Lilah/Tara. And whilst Tara, especially pre-Willow, may lack the same experience, I maintain that this ship works better for a number of reasons, the shallowest being I think she has more Lilah friendly looks (at least figure wise), ranging through the fact that both Dawn and Bethany are probably under the W&H 'aren't we so precious?' clause, and therefore off limits, to the simple (canonical) fact that Tara is a lesbian. And that makes it easier.

So, my favourite minor Lilah slash is Lilah/Tara, yes. I can see a lot of senseless sex and hotness between Lilah and other more liberated women in the Jossverse, like Jenny or Anya, but if you eant to write a plot based story or even a non-erotica ficlet (and I nearly always do) I think you have to go for a more major ship like Faith or Darla (presuming Lilah gets turned, here) for it to be really believeable.

It's five minutes past midnight, so I really missed the day, but there you go. At least I got something out, even just a comment, without staring at all the pretty fic, and then the keyboard in abject fear, and then giving up and deciding maybe I'll be able to write like that when I'm older, and retiring to sit under the table in a distinctly Fred-like manner and betray my supercool Lilah fandom roots.

Thankyou. That will be all.

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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:31 am (UTC)

Re: The pretty factor

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Well, Lilah/Buffy is insanely hard to do, because it's like, and you thought FRED hated Lilah? Ohhhh, Buffy would despise Lilah. Mostly, my favorite Lilah/Buffy scenario has been Buffy and Lilah have a catfight. Knowing that Angel and Wes and Spike et al are upstairs watching like cowards. And then rolling their eyes and going out to lunch, with a, "bitch, please" to the boys. And I just realized you meant Lilah/Bethany.

Lilah/Bethany: definitely not forever and a day, but it's weird that there's none, especially given the world of Not Right going on between the two.

Lilah/Tara? Is there more of it than I thought? Cuz I think there's one other story that was on Secret Slasha that's Lilah/Tara, but then there's just like, one other story. I have a really hard time seeing it because Tara's a genuinely good person and Lilah would eat her alive.

I do really think Kate and Virginia, as far as it goes, have the most potential for a non-disturbing Lilah minor slash ship. Justine is good grudgefucking and mind games stuff; Virginia and Kate, there's some interesting potential there. Virginia's so worldly, and she would enjoy Lilah as a companion; Kate would be annoyed by Lilah at first, but I do wonder what happened to post-Epiphany Kate....
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From:raykat
Date:June 20th, 2004 12:22 am (UTC)
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Another one that just crossed my mind is Lilah/Kate. That could be something. And something pretty.

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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:23 am (UTC)
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*nod* The latest round of ficathons boosted the number of Lilah/Kate fics. However, there's not nearly enough...and they actually, you know, could interact in canon.
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From:raykat
Date:June 25th, 2004 09:16 am (UTC)
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I know! The timeframe lines up and everything, and we have no idea what Kate's been doing for good while now. There could be some good stuff to had with this ship, I suspect.

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From:raskazzptitsa
Date:June 20th, 2004 02:32 am (UTC)
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Heh, the one thing I love about Lilah? Trying to think of a minor female character I haven't seen her paired with is HARD.

That said, Anne(/Lily/Chantarelle/Sister Sunshine/whatever), a couple weeks before Blood Money? Oh yeah. Because Anne will do anything to keep her kids safe, right? Extra points if Angel's watching them like a big obsessed perv.

There could and should be more Lilah/Gwen, because that is Pretty, and Hot, and Snarky, and Morally Ambiguous.

And Lilah/Harmony! I don't see Lilah much cottoning to Harmony, but I do see Harmony trying to make Lilah her next Cordelia in a super-admire way. And if Lilah was bored enough one night? Mm.

And crossovers! There needs to be more Lilah/Lauren (Alias). (And Head Full of Noise must be read.)
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:20 am (UTC)
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Our girl: she's a dykeadelic ho.

Which makes me want to write her with Inara from Firefly as the original, original founder of the Companions, cloned and kept very on the d/l? But that would be a world of indulgent.

There should be Lilah/Anne, much as there should be Lilah/Bethany. I'm very much thinking many of the Angel minor women need to get with Lilah, cuz her milkshake brings all the boys to the yard.
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From:raskazzptitsa
Date:June 25th, 2004 04:04 pm (UTC)
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Our girl: she's a dykeadelic ho.

She really is, heh.

You know, I think when you get down to it, most crossovers are indulgent (says the girl contemplating The Most Indulgant Lilah Crossover Ficlet EVER), but hey, if they're well-written? Who the hell cares! Bring on Teh Pretty. (And Lilah+Inara would be so pretty. I liked Sarah Thompson, but had Inara played Eve like she was supposed to, I think Lilah/Eve would have been a helluva hotter ship.)
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From:ms_dollsome
Date:June 20th, 2004 02:29 pm (UTC)
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I must be what one would call a traditional femslasher, as my favorite Lilah slash pairing is Lilah/Cordy. However, I've developed a sick obsession with all things Lilah/Dawn. *shakes head* No I don't have mommy issues.

Also, I like the idea of Lauren/Lilah...but how hot would Lilah/Irina be?? Guh.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:17 am (UTC)
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Well, Lilah/Cordelia makes the most sense. But Dawn/Lilah is 8000 kinds of wrong. I'm not entirely sure I dig it as sex, but I do dig the two of them interacting quite a lot, because oh, that could be interesting, especially with Wes around going, "oh, bad man! going to hell!" and Lilah going, "he's a bad man. and he's going to hell."

Et cetera, et cetera.

...god, the Lilah/Alias femslash crossovers beg to be written. So much. Irina/Lilah, Lauren/Lilah. Heck, Syd/Lilah, even though Jack would be like, "Lilah, I will shoot you in the face" were that to happen...
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From:paratti
Date:June 21st, 2004 05:58 am (UTC)
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Lilah and Illyria, such wonderful opportunities for snark. And great fun to write.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:15 am (UTC)
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And much less problematics vis-a-vis the dead thing.
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From:paratti
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:32 am (UTC)
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Add in the Angst/Hate sex aspects from the fragments of Fred left in Illyria and there's some tasty ingredients in there for good fic.
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From:jennyo
Date:June 25th, 2004 02:51 am (UTC)
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Especially as Illyria could run across Lilah in a hell dimension, whether or not one believes in the "Wesley's contract has his ass a-burning in Hell" theory (which I do). Lilah could most certainly be bribed, or at least amused, by Illyria offering sex, or demanding it.

Of course, who would top? Lilah would have topped Fred, but I doubt Illyria would be so amenable...
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From:paratti
Date:June 25th, 2004 03:14 am (UTC)
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Definitely the God-King of the Primorgeum. And there'd be great possibilities for the funny with Illyria complaining about only having four limbs and no tentacles to play with;)
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From:raskazzptitsa
Date:June 26th, 2004 03:43 am (UTC)
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And there'd be great possibilities for the funny with Illyria complaining about only having four limbs and no tentacles to play with;)

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah! That is toooo funny, man.
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